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Haddonfield Talks: NJ Flags at Half-Staff for Whitney Houston

Locals sound off on Internet chat room. Tell us what you think in our poll below.

 

Here's a discussion thread on Haddonfield Talks, a local Internet chat group, about Gov. Christie's decision to lower flags to half-staff after Whitney Houston's death:

Peter Dobush:

I drove by HMHS on Friday and saw our beloved flag flying at half mast. I am angry at our Governor for the message he is sending to our students. We teach our children drugs are bad, they destroy lives, they finance terrorism, they kill people. In Christie's mind, artistic license and celebrity forgive all felonies, while he awards her a symbol reserved for heroes.

What the Governor has not done, however, is to remember the young men and women from New Jersey killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. He has not lowered the flag for the five NJ law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty in 2011, he has not recognized the paid and volunteer fire-fighters killed in the line of duty in 2011, nor the sweet Newark, NJ teacher innocently killed in a drug related gangbanger gunfight. I strongly disagree with your moral compass, Sir.

 

agrylfrend:

My goodness how about a tad of compassion for a terrific singer who was demonized by drugs? If she had had diabetes nobody would fault her for it. My understanding is addiction is considered a disease; she suffered from it. She tried to overcome it, but it overcame her apparently.

The war on drugs has been a colossal failure in the US. It is because of it that there are so many drug killings and drug lords. No matter what we preach to the kids in school, many of them use drugs. Do we offer them help? No we wait til they are 18 and then try to incarcerate them in one of our for-profit prisons. I hear Christie wants to change that. Even the president of Mexico has asked that we rethink our policies. They don't work.

The war veterans are another story. The question has been asked by many why there were parades for the Giants,ball players, but not veterans. I can't answer that one.


Bill T:

You make a good point Peter. Bear in mind that the same action was taken by the PA governor last month with Joe Paterno, not long after their own state funded university fired him.

Nothing against Houston or Paterno, but regardless of their accomplishments, neither would qualify as a hero in the context that you have outlined. Both were icons in their home states, but perhaps the American flag should be reserved for a higher standard and the state flags are what should have instead been flying at half mast. Or maybe some other form of state sanctioned observation of their passing would have been more appropriate.

 

FWKlawfirmJEK:

I'm with Peter.  Since we lowering the flag for her, does that mean we drape her coffin with it too?  I think not.  That's why lowering the flags makes zero sense to me.

 

Herb Hess:

Agreed. Would also like to see more recognition nationally for our combat and combat support troops.

No-one's life is perfect and some stray very far from that standard. Whitney Houston had a gift that inspired and moved many of us. I can mourn her passing neither condemning her for choices she made nor elevating her for her musical talent. To the extent that she can inspire others to excel, that is great. Her life is also a cautionary tale.

Better that we fly the flag upside down for her, an international symbol of distress and a request for help.

 

haddonhumble:

You want to recognize your combat troops? Go see "Act of Valor" this upcoming weekend and see your tax dollars at work.

I have seen the film and these guys really are heroes! Here's to them, and those like them, damn few...

  • Do You Agree with Gov. Christie's Decision to Fly the Flag at Half-Staff after Whitney Houston's Death?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • Yes
        20 (10%)
    • No
        162 (86%)
    • Not sure
        5 (2%)
    Total votes: 187
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Jane Doe

3:53 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012

Half-Staff is for heros, not people who are famous! As I'm typing this, every flag on the base where I'm located are all at half staff for the 4 brave men who died for our freedom just a few days ago. It is in memory of the price they paid for you, your children, and the whole US. It is supposed to be in honor and out of respect for HEROS, not people who had a singing career and was in the public eye. Americans pay more attention to famous people putting trash on the media for their kids to see and want to be just alike then caring for the men and women who should have everyones attention, because there rising their lives, leaving their familys, giving up their luxurys just to defend yours. Stop trying to be like famous person and start being like a true hero. That wil get you somewhere!

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Andi Pendle

12:42 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012

It was a nice gesture. If he did this for Bruce Springsteen, there would not have been any problem at all. Hmmmm.

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Mike O'Brien

2:28 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012

Way to take away from fallen military men and women. Allow flags at half staff for crackheads now? She did nothing to protect this country she sang she did blow now she gone.

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n mac

10:33 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012

It is Christie just being Christie isn't it?!

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Jeremy

10:42 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

Just because she is a famous person renouned for her talent as well as her drug use and going to rehab for it, she does not deserve the right to have the flag flown at half mast because me personally, I am apart of the military fighting force and I have had friends die in combat and they never got the flag flown at half mast for their ultimate sacrifice for the country but yet she gets this honor why? there is no reason at all, she does not deserve it no matter what she has done during her life time, it is suppose to be a privledge to recieve this honor.

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nancy sneider

4:05 am on Friday, February 24, 2012

I agree, if they want to lower the state flag to half staff for her, more power to them, however the Americforanhh flag should not have been lowered. As for Andi Pendle, even if it was Bruce Springsteen, unless he had been serving in the military or sacrificed his life in the line of duty [ law enforcement, firefighter or EMS] then no he should not have that honor either.

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november20

8:46 am on Saturday, February 25, 2012

When I found out that our AMERICAN flag was flown at half staff for Whitney, I thought what is this country coming to .The new American standards for a hero are as follows.
Must have a dramtic need for attention a long history of dysfunction and drug addiction.
If you have that, then you qualify as an American hero ...WHAT A SHAME.Shame on New Jersey

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